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Ben and
Casey Tebo
AC:
You guys seemed to have taken the non-traditional approach to
marketing your film.
CT:
Well, it was a conscious decision. I didn’t want to go the
'Festival route'. I’ve seen it happen, I have friends go
through it. You make a short, you go to festivals, then people
sit around drinking wine telling you how great it is, then when
you walk away, they rip your film. People who haven’t made
good films yet love to rip on new talent:
BT:
That and make fun of Affleck and Mamet.
AC:
Ben Affleck?
CPT:
Every time we're at festivals, or take a class In Greater Boston,
it seems that all people do is sit around and talk about how BAD
Ben Affleck is. And David Mamet. It reminds me of sports fans
making fun of the Red-Sox when they’re down. I think Affleck
is great, hey, he made it...and come on, Mamet is a genius. Period.
And here these people are, driving beat up Volvo's , sitting around
in Thrift store clothes, because they think its hip, complaining
to each other about how bad movies are.
Yet, they've done nothing.
BT:
It's not really our scene. My brother and I have taken classes,
and its almost the stereotypical
scene. You walk in and everyone is in Berets, smoking those long
cigarettes talking about Fellini. My brother and I are regular
guys, who like sports. We just happened to be movie brats who
want to make movies too. Wit fit in better at a Patriots game
in the snow, than we do at some high fellutin film festival.
AC: Did you
guys avoid festivals for that reason, you're uncomfortable?
CPT:
No. Some of my stuff is way artsy. We have 2 screenplays written
that are polar OPPOSITES of Under Summer, that studios wouldn’t
push unless we had some credibility as filmmakers already. In
the early 90's there was a huge Indy movement, studios were picking
up any hack with a camera to make a film. But its like we're back
in the 80/s its all about money. I hate to be business like, but
i thought UNDER SUMMER was the most -'sellable' of all the screenplays.
Sad, but true
AC: How so.
CPT:
Well, if you write some kick ass- shoot em up, drug educed gangster
flick, it doesn’t matter how good it is, your going to be
compared to Scorsese or Tarantino. If you wrote a cool cyber-punk
story, you're going to be compared to the Wachowski brothers.
This film really hasn't been done yet. I guess the closest thing
too it, would be 'stand by me' or "dazed and confused'
AC: Yeah, it
seems to me, that its almost exactly in the middle of those two
films.
BT:
I hadn't seen Dazed and Confused until after we finished, but
I couldn’t agree more. You've got the innocence of Stand
by Me, with the sarcasm, of Dazed. And the decade is different.
AC: Yeah, even
with only 20 minutes, you guys did a great job referencing the
mid-80's with a low budget.
CPT:
Actually, i give credit to a lot of the kids, I just gave them
a rough idea of what to wear and they nailed it.
AC: True, but
i was thinking more about the dialogue. The compact disc, the
Mongoose, etc.
BT:
He (Casey) did a lot of research for the decade, so hopefully
if we get financing for the feature, it will be a time capsule
of sorts.
CT:
Lots of stuff was happening, Reagan had just been re-elected,
. The cold war was coming to an end. The Patriots were awful and
The Rubik’s cube was taking over.
AC: Kiss- hadn't
taken off their makeup.
CPT:
Right:
AC: That’s
one of the best lines in the movie. When the main kid is sitting
there, looking depressed about something, and his friend thought
he was mad that kiss took off their makeup.
BT:
We're just trying to capture the ball breaking that goes on between
12 year olds.
AC: Im sure
in some cases its not as bad, and other cases, worse.
CPT:
Right.
AC: Some may
argue that the film is cynical, evil, shameful, un-PC?
BT:
I would think just because of the polish jokes.. I mean did you
grow up around polish people in the mid-80's. They suffered worse
than some native Americans...
Have you ever been around young kids with no supervision?
CPT:
See, the reaction we've been getting from women... I mean, when
women see the short, and the kid gets his bike trashed. The look
on their faces is awful... like, "i cant believe they did
that" I think part of it is that they never saw stuff like
that when they were young, they were stuck inside playing with
my little pony while we were blowing stuff up.
BT:
that and they can see neighbor hood kids doing that sort of thing
to their kids.
AC: Right. Which,
in theory is highly likely. Sort of a 'lord of the flies' type
mentality. Which incidentally, wasn’t one kid reading that
book in class in the film?
CPT:
You caught it! Its an inside joke.
AC: I’ve
seen it 6 or 7 times. The Carmina-Burina scene is a classic in
the making.
BT:
True Story
AC: (Laughing)
Really?
BT:
Completely
CPT: 100%
AC: You're kidding
me.
BT:
Pretty much all of the short, and the feature (screenplay) are
all-true.
AC: EVEN THE
LAKE SCENE!
BT:
Yup, we were there. Except it wasn’t the mother, it was
the kid. And it was worse.
CPT:
Much worse.
AC: The Coen
Brothers, The Farrely Brothers, The Wachowski Brothers, The Weitz
Brothers, The Hughes Brothers.... do you guys see a pattern here?
CPT:
That's great company, but I'd rather be put along the same lines
as Brooks Brothers.
BPT:
Or YECK Brothers.
CPT:
What?
BPT:
Yeck brothers, a shipping company out of Dayton. Very reliable.
AC: Do you think
being brothers is beneficial to the filmmaking process. Do you
see your self up with those names someday?
CPT:
Seriously, i wanna be with brooks brothers. Suits, Its all about
making suits.
BT:
Well, i don’t know of a sibling team that hasn't had any
success.. It’s literally like having 2 brains on one job.
I think the DNA thing is helpful. Some people have made films
with 2 directors that aren’t related, and it’s just
not the same. Most of the movies, I think, made by brother combos,
have more.. I don’t know, the relationships just seem more
real between characters.
AC: What other
kinds of movies would you guys like to make if this one is a success?
CPT:
Without pissing off James Brooks, and having to shampoo anyone’s
crotch, i think of it this way. I think filmmaking is a parallel
to making music. Look at a guy like Spielberg. He's obviously
the Rolling Stones of the film-world. Bigger than life. Has some
misses, but when he wants to, can knock you on your ass. I would
look at Scorsese like Dylan, sort of always does the same thing,
but is always on top, and is way more influential than anyone
thinks. a guy like Jim Jarmusch would be like Tom Waits.. not
crazy popular, but adored by fans. And with the newer guys, Taranino
is like Nirvana, he just came out of no-where and steamrolled
everyone. And just like everyone copied Nirvana, everyone copied
Quentin. And if he hadn’t killed himself, he'd probably
be making mature kick-ass epics like Tarantino is. And lastly,
Paul Thomas Anderson is like Radiohead. Complete, classic, so
good, you almost cant get it. Too good for the masses. Masterpieces,
works of art. But some people don’t get it.
AC: SO who would
you guys be.
BT:
C.C. Music factory? No, THE FAT BOYS!
CPT:
I wanna model our career after the Foo Fighters. I think they're
the best rock band of the 90's. They kick ass live, make great,
straight up rock n roll records. They don’t take themselves
too seriously, but when its time to get to business, they make
great music. Lets just leave it at that.
AC: Well, if
the feature goes well, contact them to do the music.
BT:
Way ahead of you, every day I hear how "Dave Ghrol is gonna
be our Danny Elfman".
CPT:
The interview is over. I don’t want anyone stealing our
ideas.
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